Minutes
of
Meeting
of
Friends
of
St
Nicholas,
28
th
May
2009
Present:
Molly
Aim
Andrew
Drever
Irene
Drever
Alfie
Flett
(Chair)
Erlend
Flett
Hazel
Goar
Jimmy
Goar
Ida
Gorn
R
Jamieson
Bertie
Johnston
Joyce
Johnston
Gracie
Laughton
John
Livitt
Joy
Livitt
Marlene
Mainland(minutes)
Jack
McIntosh
John
Muir
Helen
Paterson
Rhoda
Shearer
Billy
Sinclair
Jean
Smith
Margaret
Smith
Lilian
Sinclair
Freddie
Tait
Vera
Tait
Mike
Tilley
Athole
Thomson
Minutes
Minutes
of
the
previous
meeting
were
circulated
and
approved.
proposer
:
Andrew
Drever,
seconder:
Helen
Paterson
Matters
arising
As
the
previous
minute
stated
the
intention
to
expand
membership
of
the
management
committee,
nominations
were
invited.
Erlend
Flett
was
proposed
by
John
Muir
and
seconded
by
Lilian
Sinclair.
Athole
Thomson
was
proposed
by
Helen
Paterson
and
seconded
by
Ida
Gorn.
This
takes
the
committee
number
up
to
six,
leaving
space
for
specialist
input
in
the
future,
if
necessary.
Mr
Flett
then
referred
to
the
context
one
month
previously
when
there
was
an
expectation
that
St.
Nicholas
Church
would
be
advertised
for
sale.
This
had
now
happened,
and
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
was
to
clarify
our
intentions
and
decide
how
to
progress
fro
m
this
point.
There
was
some
discussion
on
the
implications
of
category
B
listing,
and
whether
de
‐
listing
would
be
possible.
There
was
also
discussion
on
the
stability
of
the
building,
with
the
implications
for
future
maintenance
and
expense,
and
it
was
felt
that
a
site
visit
would
be
ne
cessary
to
inform
opinion
on
the
structural
quality
of
the
building.
There
was
also
some
concern
about
the
consecrated
status
of
the
ground
beneath
the
building,
and
a
desire
to
have
this
clarified.
Decision
To
lodge
a
declaration
of
interest
in
the
property
with
the
Church
of
Scotland,
George
Street,
Edinburgh.
To
request
permission
to
make
a
site
visit
to
view
the
inte
rior
of
the
building.
To
discuss
with
the
local
planning
authority
and
Historic
Scotland
the
possibilities
of
delisting.
To
investigate
the
implications
of
burials
within
the
footprint.
T
o
seek
advice
on
insurance
premiums
for
this
type
of
property
Thursday, 28 May 2009
Monday, 27 April 2009
AGM minutes - Spring 2009
Minutes
of
meeting
held
in
Holm
Community
Centre
on
27
th
April,
2009
Present :
Brian Aim Councillor Andrew Drever Alfie Flett (chair) Erlend Flett Hazel Goar Jimmy Goar Ida Gorn Ken Hambly Fraser Henning Shirley Henning Reg Jamieson Gracie Laughton Marlene Mainland(minutes) Kenny Marwick Jack McIntosh Jan Moar Douglas Paterson Helen Paterson Margaret Smith Vera Tait ( It was noted that apologies had been re ceived from several people with a prior engagement)
Purpose of meeting :
To establish a proactive group committed to acquiring St Nicholas Church, in order to ensure the sanctity of the church site and the surrounding churchyard. To form a management committee to progress the business of the group.
Background
Mr Alfie Flett expla ined that according to Church of Scotland policy, redundant churches are put for sale on the open market. This had already happened in St Andrews and Deerness, and now St Nicholas in Holm is due to be advertised for sale in the near future.
The B listed building is surro unded by the cemetry, the property of Orkney Islands Council. The building has no services or independent access. The historic listing imposes restrictions on development or alteration. However there is concern about who might acquire the building and how this would affect the sanctity of the churchyard.
With a view to forming a support group for the acquisition of St Nicholas Church, Mr Flett had sought advice from Voluntary Action Orkney in drawing up a constitution, which was based on that of the friends of St Ninian’s in Deerness.
Discussion
The meeting was opened for discussion and the issue of listing featured prominently as this has implications both of restriction of development , and expense in upkeep. The roof appears quite sound, but there is no guarantee to its safety. It is not known whether it can be de ‐ listed, but th is possibility will be explored.
Decision
The majority of those present (17) wished to form an action group, which would be known as The Friends of St Nicholas. There were three abstentions.
According to the constitution, initial members of the management committee were nominated and seconded. Andrew Drever (n. J Goar s.I Gorn)Alfie Flett (n.A Dreve r s. H Goar) Marlene Mainland (A Drever H Goar) Freddie Tait in absentia ( V Tait H Paterson)
There will be a further meeting to complete committee membership, but the group can now be registered through VAO as a formally constituted body.
Present :
Brian Aim Councillor Andrew Drever Alfie Flett (chair) Erlend Flett Hazel Goar Jimmy Goar Ida Gorn Ken Hambly Fraser Henning Shirley Henning Reg Jamieson Gracie Laughton Marlene Mainland(minutes) Kenny Marwick Jack McIntosh Jan Moar Douglas Paterson Helen Paterson Margaret Smith Vera Tait ( It was noted that apologies had been re ceived from several people with a prior engagement)
Purpose of meeting :
To establish a proactive group committed to acquiring St Nicholas Church, in order to ensure the sanctity of the church site and the surrounding churchyard. To form a management committee to progress the business of the group.
Background
Mr Alfie Flett expla ined that according to Church of Scotland policy, redundant churches are put for sale on the open market. This had already happened in St Andrews and Deerness, and now St Nicholas in Holm is due to be advertised for sale in the near future.
The B listed building is surro unded by the cemetry, the property of Orkney Islands Council. The building has no services or independent access. The historic listing imposes restrictions on development or alteration. However there is concern about who might acquire the building and how this would affect the sanctity of the churchyard.
With a view to forming a support group for the acquisition of St Nicholas Church, Mr Flett had sought advice from Voluntary Action Orkney in drawing up a constitution, which was based on that of the friends of St Ninian’s in Deerness.
Discussion
The meeting was opened for discussion and the issue of listing featured prominently as this has implications both of restriction of development , and expense in upkeep. The roof appears quite sound, but there is no guarantee to its safety. It is not known whether it can be de ‐ listed, but th is possibility will be explored.
Decision
The majority of those present (17) wished to form an action group, which would be known as The Friends of St Nicholas. There were three abstentions.
According to the constitution, initial members of the management committee were nominated and seconded. Andrew Drever (n. J Goar s.I Gorn)Alfie Flett (n.A Dreve r s. H Goar) Marlene Mainland (A Drever H Goar) Freddie Tait in absentia ( V Tait H Paterson)
There will be a further meeting to complete committee membership, but the group can now be registered through VAO as a formally constituted body.
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